Of the bumper freshly on the plate

The newest trend in England: Gedünstetes squirrel or roasted fox - fresh of the bitumen. Fergus Drennan creates menus from practice-experienced animals in a new Fernsehshow. Delicate detail: Drennan supplies also point cook Jamie of olive.

London - the new cook ending with BBC is called “Road Kill Café” - and the name are program. Those added for the menus literally lie on the road. So that the spectators these can zusammenklauben themselves, there are instructions according to of “Time on-line ones” first of all, on which one must respect, if one goes at the roadside to started animals on the Pirsch.

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,760155,00.jpgFergus Drennan, which supplies among other things the restaurants of star cook Jamie of olive, demonstrates descriptive, how one takes the dead rigidity at the Kadavern under the magnifying glass. Importantly it is that death does not guarantee yet for a long time occurred actual then Drennan that from the dead animal a delicious meal can be prepared. Quasi of the bitumen freshly on the table within 24 hours after the collision with the bumper.


A goal of the transmission is it to show that fox, hedgehog and meatmeat meat have a higher nutrient content than meat from the supermarket. Drennan calls itself as a “vegetarian, who eats only meat of practice-experienced animals”, because “it was not killed in my order”. The 35-Jährige invited several restaurant operators, in the context of a three-week expedition together into road ditches to go at beaches and in the Unterholz on the hunt for dead animals.

The animal protection organization RSPCA took and warns the idea already under the magnifying glass the producers of the Fernsehshow. “Dachse, deer and deer stand under the protection of the law, and it is an offence, at all any part of the body of a Dachses to possess”, such a speaker.

Drennan, for 15 years in the restaurant industry actively and a good acquaintance of point cook Jamie of olive, holds against it, it deliberates itself with the newest trend only upon the way of life of its ancestors. On its Website writes it over the hare or pheasant roast aufgegabelten at the roadside flapsig: Kadaver meat is “freshly, domestic, seasonally and nutrient-rich”.
jjc

Source: http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/0,1518,454803,00.html


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That has my father believes I always said to fun the fact that one can eat calmly game because unintentionally by traffic accidents around lives came. oh God….

Man, how one can be only so heartless? These animals suffered nevertheless perhaps still more (when possibly slow dying at the roadside).

Humans become me ever more terribly and more unpleasantly… It surprises me only that they do not up-eat themselves mutually in their meat greed. Naja, which gab´s now already, I know.

And there our in as “cranks” dismissed… Like that is this world.

Exactly!!!! And to us one, we says would be abnormal and not normal…. http://www.cosgan.de/images/midi/boese/r010.gif

Ich verstehe nicht, was ihr dagegen habt? Die überfahren die Tiere doch nicht freiwillig, sondern sammeln Aas auf, welches eh im Müll gelandet wäre.
Ist doch nichts gegen einzuwenden, außer das es echt eklig ist, aber das ist geschmachssache.

Ich verstehe nicht, was ihr dagegen habt? Die überfahren die Tiere doch nicht freiwillig, sondern sammeln Aas auf, welches eh im Müll gelandet wäre.
Ist doch nichts gegen einzuwenden, außer das es echt eklig ist, aber das ist geschmachssache.

Sehe ich genauso. Verachtenswert ist der Akt des Überfahrens, der gehört auch aufs Schwerste bestraft, aber das Leichen essen danach finde ich nur persönlich ekelhaft, vom rein ethischen Standpunkt haben diese Leute absolut grünes Licht von mir. Ist so ein ähnliches Thema wie beim Kannibalen von Rothenburg, das finde ich nach wie vor skandalös, daß dieser Mann verurteilt wurde, obwohl er nichts getan hat, was das Opfer nicht aus freien Stücken so wollte. Ich bin in Sachen Leichenessen genauso tolerant wie bei allen anderen Perversitäten, ich verurteile nur den Mord. Wichtig ist für mich, daß mich niemand dazu zwingt, daß niemand durch den Fresser selbst zu Schaden kommt bzw. nur auf ausdrücklichen eigenen Wunsch. Wenn diese drei Punkten gewährleistet wurden, ziehe ich mich zurück und wünsche guten Appetit...

daß niemand durch den Fresser selbst zu Schaden kommt

Wobei das auch unglücklich ausgedrückt ist, weil man das ja dann auch als Freifahrtsschein für alle Fleischfresser sehen könnte, die selbst nicht Hand anlegen. Ich meinte damit natürlich auch, solange gewährleistet ist, daß das Wesen nicht für den Fleischkonsum getötet wurde, sondern eben durch einen Unfall/durch Krankheit/durch Altersschwäche etc..

Sehe ich genauso. Verachtenswert ist der Akt des Überfahrens, der gehört auch aufs Schwerste bestraft
Seid wann sollen Unfälle denn aufs Schwerste bestraft werden? Ich denke niemand überfährt freiwillig ein Tier, schon allein aus dem Grund der Selbstgefährdung.

Seid wann sollen Unfälle denn aufs Schwerste bestraft werden? Ich denke niemand überfährt freiwillig ein Tier, schon allein aus dem Grund der Selbstgefährdung.

So wie ich den Artikel verstanden habe, artet es schon in eine Art von "Jagd" aus. Jagd auf 4 Rädern. Man sucht gezielt Straßen mit Wildwechsel aus.

So wie ich den Artikel verstanden habe, artet es schon in eine Art von "Jagd" aus. Jagd auf 4 Rädern. Man sucht gezielt Straßen mit Wildwechsel aus.

Genau, und "man" freut sich über jedes totgefahrene Geschöpf *würg*

So wie ich den Artikel verstanden habe, artet es schon in eine Art von "Jagd" aus. Jagd auf 4 Rädern. Man sucht gezielt Straßen mit Wildwechsel aus.

So habe ich es auch verstanden.

Habe gestern meinem Freund davon erzählt und er ißt Fleisch, aber das fand er auch merkwürdig.

das ist ja auch verdammt eklig...ich mein da spricht ja überhaupt nichts dafür... gefahr für mensch und Tier, das auto wird beschädigt und man gefährdet auch noch andere verkehrsteilnehmer...also wenn das wirklich als jagd gesehen wird und man sowas extra macht dann weiß ich nicht was in den köpfen los ist...

ein kumpel von mir hat leider mal nen fuchs erwischt bei voller fahrt und er ist von rechts nach links über die ganze bahn geschleudert...wagen total schaden aber ihm und seiner freundin ist zum glück nichts passiert...der fuchs hat es leider nicht überlebt!!!!

ich weiss nicht wie man das ok finden kann?! ich finde das wiederwärtig. Die Tiere sollten anständig bestattet werden! Wäre es dann auch ok wenn meine katze überfahren wird, dass man die dann isst?!
Oder ein Kind das überfahren wird darf man dann auch essen?!
Ich bin für gleiches Recht für alle, ich möchte mein Kind oder meine Katze anständig bestatten, wenn sie durch einen Unfall gestorben sind,also haben auch Wildtiere ein Recht darauf!

nadann planen wir wohl für jeden überfahrenen igel eine 1000€ bestattung... gleiches recht für alle ;) dann aber auch mit gedenksäule wie für meine oma.

nee also extra überfahren ist gefährlich und dumm. sowas macht man auch sicher nicht 1. verboten 2. viel zu gefährlich

aber immer noch besser als auf bestellung jemand schlachten zu lassen. das tier ist doch schon tot. unabsichtlich.

one of the widerlichsten things is which I in such a way read… however if man fun to has.

Where it stand please does that they start the animals intentionally?

Are when are accidents on the heaviest to be punished? I do not think anybody over-driven voluntarily an animal, already alone for the reason of the self endangerment.

And evenly for this reason to the self endangerment also nobody will evade for an animal, in driving licence tests is the response possibility “in the Unterholz evades” wrongly, white I the 100%ig, because I made it specially wrong and my only points in the theoretical examination was. I am rather sure me that these possibilities would be differently distributed in the test, if instead of “deer” “child” would stand there. And so long is not alike, animals in the traffic as living pain-sensitive natures are not noticed and/or only then if all other possibilities are exhausted. And I find scandalously and absolutely punish worth, would have I a driving licence, I for each deer exactly the same alternate attempts as for a child would make.

I white like one the ok to find cannot?! I find that wiederwärtig. The animals should be decently bestattet! It would be then also ok if my cat over-drives becomes that one eats then?!

The speech was of dead game animals, those stands beyond all verqueren human mourning thoughts. Is guaranteed just as no matter to the dead animal how me. What is with humans with an organ PEND document of identification? Is also unethisch for you, only “to cannibalize” and then without certain organs dig? At all I do not understand, what finds humans to it, corpses in the earth to dig and the whole as “decently” to then regard. For what does one need so a primitive memorial place, in order to remember its love? I loved my granny, think today still very often of her, at her grave was I only to their funeral. Is that to be known any patient comfort that before me in 2 m depth uncle Hans decays now there slowly before itself? Isn't a mourning possible without such by verse a picture? I find THAT ill…

I would not sacrifice myself and my family in any case for a deer or a wild pig.

I would not sacrifice myself and my family in any case for a deer or a wild pig.

I would not sacrifice myself and my family also for you or another humans, have thereby nothing at all to do. If you come to meet me in a passport curve and right beside me an abyss is and on the left of a cliff, then it prays that my brakes function, while I come to you, into the abyss I would guaranteed not evade.: D looks differently, if beside me a forest area, a ditch etc. would lie, then would have you very good chances, because I would instinktiv not hold you, but my luck between the trunks would search. In a driving licence examination however will turn out to hold the direction and prepare for the Aufstoss.

But Rygel, which spurs you at Veganer to be again exact?!?! If dead animals are all the same to you?

But Rygel, which spurs you at Veganer to be again exact?!?! If dead animals are all the same to you?

The murder at innocent one, tormenting innocent one, the outlawry of other animals beside humans animal. Why should dead animals care me, all the same whether humans or other animal?

Naja I finds it already terrible if I always in the newspaper read must the fact that again young humans die in accidents and exactly the same is with animals. All die senselessly.

Naja I finds it already terrible if I always in the newspaper read must the fact that again young humans die in accidents and exactly the same is with animals. All die senselessly.

That is perfectly correct, Spirit, therefore one should prevent these accidents, where one can. But which is despicably to it which “use” Kadaver? How said, may I find´s disgustingly, but forbid I then nevertheless different humans? With which reason? “I wanted to however rather dig the corpses…”?

Naja if my child there dead at the roadside does not lie I also would want that one eats it.

exactly Lena! Thus I see also.
Thus I may do your body if you die also further-use Rygel?! Thus I would not want that. With organ donation is which other one however if one the Kadaver eats is none helped…

I would eat also no practice-experienced body, but theoretically it is now no matter to eat a people child or a Rehkitz Rehkitz is stop healthier, weil's not the same DNA has…
Ne, fun aside! Theoretically it is no matter whether one eats the child or the Kitz. It is at least all the same to me… But remaining mankind thinks there differently…

You times the picture looks at more exactly.
There a deer is because of the roadside and behind it drives a truck, full-packed with vegetable, then my assumption.
I do not have to subordinate it however necessarily, because most vegetable, which your food basis is, is not produced into Germany, but is not driven by airplane, ship and truck before your door.

Also you have a very large portion of it, which organisms are brutally murdered on the road and because they not immediately are dead still eledig agonies to suffer.

I am hunter and how often I had to seek, because a piece game was started. it dragged itself painful into next thickening and suffered.

I feel it as Heuchelei from animal protection to to talk to call but by your eating habits others murderers.

Because their Veganer have a large portion of the murder of animals, which cross the roads, because the products with the truck, estimated of you, are built to be heranbgeschafft to have and thus ever more roads.

Appropo nature protection:

You to it times the question placed, why ever more landscapes by roads are replaced?

When begin you times to be honest to you and to your environment????

HP. Nearly forgotten, it is to be packed punishable accident width unit game in kofferaum and carried forward. The act reproach reads theft.
And if one does not know, like for a long time the piece lies there, should leave one eh the fingers of it because already after 30 minutes the biological bacterial decomposition in the body begins.

It surprises me now nevertheless, which with 6 viewers the answers are missing?
I hope, whom my Vorpost tunes nevertheless thoughtfully, because in such a way am it now times.

Or is someone here, which can deny that, what I wrote?

It surprises me now nevertheless, which with 6 viewers the answers are missing?
I hope, whom my Vorpost tunes nevertheless thoughtfully, because in such a way am it now times.

Or is someone here, which can deny that, what I wrote?

Look for you nevertheless please another playground?!

You times the picture looks at more exactly.
There a deer is because of the roadside and behind it drives a truck, full-packed with vegetable, then my assumption.
I do not have to subordinate it however necessarily, because most vegetable, which your food basis is, is not produced into Germany, but is not driven by airplane, ship and truck before your door.

You do not want to tell me now however that you nourish yourself exclusively of your hunted animals?? We know all that we would have to do, if one liked to escape the whole wrong of the world completely!!!!!

It is as far as I know also no intention, if a Truck driver animal over-drives!



HP. Nearly forgotten, it is to be packed punishable accident width unit game in kofferaum and carried forward. The act reproach reads theft.
And if one does not know, like for a long time the piece lies there, should leave one eh the fingers of it because already after 30 minutes the biological bacterial decomposition in the body begins.

I thought, only by *verwesung* get the meat the certain taste??

I thought, only by *verwesung* get the meat the certain taste??

You meet it the point: Meat/must only days become “depended”, and thus it concerns Kadaver:

By a corpse or a body one today usually understands a dead body, in decay (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verwesung) understood corpses one calls Kadaver.
Source and further in the text: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kadaver

In the reason thus each meat is Gammelfleisch.

Thus it is also wrongly to say “Tierleichenfresser”, correctly is called it “Tierkadaverfresser”! http://www.cosgan.de/images/kao/liebe/a010.gif

;) There you have probably quite… I however nevertheless often use
the word corpse… it “frightens” the people more, because it evenly
usually in connection with the species humans are used.

Find however both words “impressing”


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Thus well, in your Vorstellungsthread I took you still seriously, therefore I take everything back here, which I wrote there. So through-slammed one must become first times, respect, KK.: WAD:

Also you have a very large portion of it, which organisms are brutally murdered on the road and because they not immediately are dead still eledig agonies to suffer.

Because “my” vegetable is transported in LKWs, did I understand that correctly? Am I jointly responsible your opinion after also for the notice on the World trade center, because I flew already times and so supported airlines? But as said, respect, on such ideas one must come first times. In any case driver of the LKW´s, I is responsible vegetables ordered, the order “thereby please as much as possible animals over-drives” must I thereby have skipped.

I am hunter and how often I had to seek, because a piece game was started. it dragged itself painful into next thickening and suffered.

I press you all thumbs that you do not hurt yourself times in the forest, you somewhere on the search toward assistance, and then a mad with rifle goes past and you of your suffering “released”. Or stop, it would be for you a “release”, therefore I press you exactly contrarily the thumbs.

You to it times the question placed, why ever more landscapes by roads are replaced?

You answer this question please, I are there interested very much to. Because we eat as much vegetables, do I assume? What believe do you, are road construction up snapped, since then it vegetarians and Veganer gives? Do you have there any numbers and statistics more drüber? Ask also calmly your cell comrades or your male nurses, I are there really very interested to…

Over my jagdlichen does not sue do not need you not the head to break, there passes yourselves to me anything.

It concerns also not, whether the truck driver is the guilty one, but Vegane food to Germany and Austria is generally imported.
Do not put you nevertheless please as a clean man.
You, I and others have a portion of drop game and environmental degradation, because we use services, which roll over the road.

If you explain to me that you carry everything that you eats and/or even in your garden cultivate, tariff I you and only then a problem in my argumentation would have respect in your decision.

As long as that is not the case, you belong like all different exactly the same to those, which call the welfare and, but own hell acts conceal.

It is difficult to differnzieren, who has exactly and in which Unfang debt to it if children are exploited verhungern, humans or animals are abused. One must differentiate there between direct and indirect debt. Bsp 9.11. Clearly why should I have individual person a partial debt at the notice? I planned, supported, endorsed or accomplished it neither. Defacto no debt meets me. So is however not simple. The notice did not pass from fun, the enemies, how they insult the Amis now, was times good friends, aids in the war against others. Then, only departure, breaking the friendship, one off turn-turns began evenly still supported actions sharply to criticize, then reminders, finally Handelsambarogs, then war menace and as the latter then a war. To it are I in addition, not debt?! No and nevertheless. First of all. You have to vote the possibility out this government, not alone, but in the group. Then, you protested? Did you undertake something? Were you not also to repair with force of arms “peace”? Such and many questions, one must place oneself to more, regarding EVERYTHING. Thus is clearly, which will grant to everyone partial debt must, although no direct, but indirect partial debt.
Exactly as in the case of the transport of the vegetable. The death of an animal, is also your debt released thereby, however indirect. A direct debt can only the driver meet, in addition, then only if it had wrongly behaved, otherwise would also only be it an indirect debt. Thank God indirect debt is not condemnable, otherwise we all would have to sit in the Knast.
The play lets it resume infinitely. Fact is, which I make today, eats, takes, etc. somewhere, in the world, exactly the opposite will cause. Whether one wants or not.

Then, you protested? Did you undertake something? Were you not also to repair with force of arms “peace”? Such and many questions, one must place oneself to more, regarding EVERYTHING. Thus is clearly, which will grant to everyone partial debt must, although no direct, but indirect partial debt.

Sorry, hold I still for rubbish. There I cannot the debt be pushed simply into the shoes. Particularly since I never was with the topic to repair with force of arms “peace”. About protest: What is with people, which protested and although is nothing happened? These people also a partial debt meets, because it thereafter not to still harder means like e.g. Assassination attempts seized? At all that is a blödes example with the policy. Do I have a partial debt at all acts of well-known politicians, only because I am not Pazifist and therefore a concrete assassination attempt on her planned and accomplished? No, I can only repeat myself, this aspect with the partial debt am for me nonsense.

Exactly as in the case of the transport of the vegetable. The death of an animal, is also your debt released thereby, however indirect. A direct debt can only the driver meet, in addition, then only if it had wrongly behaved, otherwise would also only be it an indirect debt. Thank God indirect debt is not condemnable, otherwise we all would have to sit in the Knast.

I speak against it also here after like before. With your argumentation even the autosalesman would have a partial debt, because he sold the car to the accident driver to be silent from the automaker completely. I have a partial debt, if I e.g. concretely give a murder order in case of the meat consumption, by buying the corpse and financing so the direct act of killing. I stopped the driver of the vegetable car however neither to over-drive an animal still have I it in a forced manner to be negligent. What is, if this man is a child violater? I am then also jointly guilty at its next act, because I took its occupation up as a vegetable driver and along-financed so its living costs. : confused: : rolleyes:

The political component is very complex and therefore only difficult to check up, also regarding own power and possibilities. Clearly, resistance begins in the small one and ends then, since there is hardly another way, in force. Even if force is not the correct way, then it is a way everyone speaks nevertheless, completely equal whatever origin, faith, language, conditions, etc. therefore is it that “peaceful” nations rig, substantial, the European Union is hardly amazing here as frightening example mentioned. I only took up the topic, because times 11/9 were fallen sometime.
Another example shows also clear direct and indirect debt.
BSP you orders a sofa in the OnlineShop. And assumed the carrier drives only from the storage hall to your residence. Thus you have maximally three points, which you can steer consciously. 1. The order procedure ansich, therefore the order give for the travel of the carrier. 2. The destination and concomitantly the most optimal route from storage hall to the residence. 3. The time, even if only roughly.
Further facts foreseeable affectable of you or would not be: The psychological and physical characteristics of the driver, as well as the present psychological and physiche condition. From the first the following follows: The exact route (he will select a way, which he knows, who to it at the shortest, best appears, which with the optimal way to then agree does not have), as well as the driving ability, which attention, which driving speed, reactivity, control vehicle, Regestrieren of the environment, etc., which flows however into that the second part with.
Further influenceable factors would not be: Procurement of the road, weather, causes the time and the place, etc.
If it should come now to an accident, e.g. a child runs before the car and is dead, thus an indirect, although infinitesimal small partial debt, which is not to be judged however by any means, meets you. Naturally you can directly or indirectly affect only few factors, but the driver drove this route in this case only for you. Because it did not have simply times desire.
If the driver should be still another child violater, as you noticed, logical way no debt can meet you, direct as well as indirect. That would be to be put down under psychological characteristic drivers and whereupon has we now times no influence. Also, if you make a job for the driver possible by ordering and it thereby its life help to finance, gives it no indirkte debt, it had it in such a way or in such a way made, the internal pressure given way.
An interesting question would be, can it without debt whether now to a reorientation to come directly or indirectly, at all? I assume times, which you, exactly like I, not because it does not taste, but because the treatment of the animals is frightening, aufgehöhrt, to consume meat. Isn't a irgendie indirect debt assignment? Because I consume the meat, does this animal have to live and die in such a way? Because I buy this super of shoes of Nike, do children for it have to work? Can't it only come to a reorientation, if one knows, which debt one has, by all the whole and thus also only can recognize, which power is in each individual consumer?

Thus well, in your Vorstellungsthread I took you still seriously, therefore I take everything back here, which I wrote there. So through-slammed one must become first times, respect, KK.: WAD:

Because “my” vegetable is transported in LKWs, did I understand that correctly? Am I jointly responsible your opinion after also for the notice on the World trade center, because I flew already times and so supported airlines? But as said, respect, on such ideas one must come first times. In any case driver of the LKW´s, I is responsible vegetables ordered, the order “thereby please as much as possible animals over-drives” must I thereby have skipped.

I press you all thumbs that you do not hurt yourself times in the forest, you somewhere on the search toward assistance, and then a mad with rifle goes past and you of your suffering “released”. Or stop, it would be for you a “release”, therefore I press you exactly contrarily the thumbs.

You answer this question please, I are there interested very much to. Because we eat as much vegetables, do I assume? What believe do you, are road construction up snapped, since then it vegetarians and Veganer gives? Do you have there any numbers and statistics more drüber? Ask also calmly your cell comrades or your male nurses, I are there really very interested to…


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hihihi, very well Rygel! *lachkaputt
(even if it is actually not for laughter, but falls sometimes one to as idiotischem twaddle as from KK nothing more different….)

If it should come now to an accident, e.g. a child runs before the car and is dead, thus an indirect, although infinitesimal small partial debt, which is not to be judged however by any means, meets you. Naturally you can directly or indirectly affect only few factors, but the driver drove this route in this case only for you. Because it did not have simply times desire.
If the driver should be still another child violater, as you noticed, logical way no debt can meet you, direct as well as indirect. That would be to be put down under psychological characteristic drivers and whereupon has we now times no influence. Also, if you make a job for the driver possible by ordering and it thereby its life help to finance, gives it no indirkte debt, it had it in such a way or in such a way made, the internal pressure given way.

, Then we change my example times accordingly to o.k.: The driver is noticed coincidental with the discharge of my commodity before my door a child violater and its next victim. Would I be then jointly responsible for the act, because he drove the route for me and without me this girl in the life would have never seen? Do not keep comprehensible I after like before for, because I have simply no influence on the psychological condition of this man, as you said already correctly. But why I have then an influence on its degrees of the tiredness and/or on its inadvertence and/or the bad insight of the road? Be would I mean partial debt in your eyes loose, if I would point out with the order procedure expressly that he was to set himself only perfectly out-slept behind the steering wheel and explicitly to animals may pay attention?

Perhaps I expressed myself there wrongly. on the physichen as well as psychological condition driver cannot have of us influence, at least in this Bsp not, clear gives it to means and ways its attitude to change etc. but with this example I excluded it times.
The point which you it mentions that he meets thereby his next victim, is to see very contentious. On the one hand you did not send it evenly on this way, on whom has other side, have you influence on those and other persons, thus logically also not on the girl, and its behavior. (therefore it their momentary point of view, with the arrival of the driver).
One can become still more detailierter however, which still complicated the thing makes, when she already is without, in which one asks oneself, to what extent one has stop nevertheless influence on other humans, in this case the driver and the girl, and thus a situation could defuse. But finally regarded, one will have hardly chances, a meeting of the two will prevent.